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bush's war and george bush's wars and barack obama's wars but you know right or wrong george bush there was a certain kind of understanding this kind of purpose you know and it may have been weird and often wrong and destructive but there was this idea of like this is the purpose of american foreign policy or to make a rock believe you we want what we want them to believe we're going to make against them believe what we want them to believe here it's just kind of you're. just kind of stumbling from one place to another you know libya egypt syria with no kind of purpose no idea of what the strategic interest is and so it's kind of seen the same thing here because what is a benefit what's going to benefit america to send a bunch of cruise missiles to syria because of this chemical weapons use you know if you talk about a white wag the dog situation unfortunately we're in a we're in a period of american history where we don't need to wag the dog you know you have miley cyrus twerking the v.n.a. is no one's talking about syria on monday so the idea or whatever other scandals there are but t
bush's war and george bush's wars and barack obama's wars but you know right or wrong george bush there was a certain kind of understanding this kind of purpose you know and it may have been weird and often wrong and destructive but there was this idea of like this is the purpose of american foreign policy or to make a rock believe you we want what we want them to believe we're going to make against them believe what we want them to believe here it's just kind of you're. just kind of stumbling...
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it's john kerry who was very much of an opponent of george bush's. position and policy on invading iraq so maybe these people do have some more reality which is essential to overturn this pattern and really seek the due diligence process in the in the verifying the c.w. . can you get across to the where do you think this is going where is that information we heard yesterday that. this proof. was behind the chemical attack still not come to surface yet as far as we know is it i'm quite pessimistic i have to disagree with you first of all i think the united states could very well go it maybe not alone but certainly without the u.n. security council i mean we've seen that before it's surprise to me that anybody would debate that the u.s. but go ahead and it doesn't hide that it doesn't hold very much value for the decisions that are made in new york at the u.n. with that said the questions being asked and debates that are happening are not the debates that marcus was talking about does the united states or anyone else have the right to intervene when we
it's john kerry who was very much of an opponent of george bush's. position and policy on invading iraq so maybe these people do have some more reality which is essential to overturn this pattern and really seek the due diligence process in the in the verifying the c.w. . can you get across to the where do you think this is going where is that information we heard yesterday that. this proof. was behind the chemical attack still not come to surface yet as far as we know is it i'm quite...
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when george bush involved us and the supposedly illegal wars in iraq and afghanistan, trampling the constitution as we heard incessantly from democrats, he sought and got in the afghan war and in the iraq war a debate in congress and a vote of authorization. and now what we're hearing from the democrats with utter shameless hypocrisy, this administration is not required to do it. look, the main question that boehner was asking is, is all of this to send a message, to which i would say if you want to send a message, call western union. you don't use tomahawk missiles and engage in war. war is a serious thing. that's why it should be debated in the congress. >> the bush administration also had a united nations resolution as well. juan? >> i think it is very important to say for all of the verbiage we just saw from speaker boehner, speaker boehner, you know, senate majority reid, neither is calling for vote or asking for this to happen. all that you read off, there was no request for speaker boehner for an actual vote. if you can imagine a debate in congress over u.s. military action, you understan
when george bush involved us and the supposedly illegal wars in iraq and afghanistan, trampling the constitution as we heard incessantly from democrats, he sought and got in the afghan war and in the iraq war a debate in congress and a vote of authorization. and now what we're hearing from the democrats with utter shameless hypocrisy, this administration is not required to do it. look, the main question that boehner was asking is, is all of this to send a message, to which i would say if you...
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same thing in libya, thank you george bush, he had just turned the loan -- what's his name, libyan -- gadhafi, he just turned gadhafi into america's best friend by invading iraq. gadhafi goes running to england and says, is he going to invade me next, he opens up, says i'm giving up my nukes, my weapons of mass destruction, and that's when obama wants to take him out? democrats do not care about american national security. they're always making this country more dangerous. we are still living with the consequences of the carter administration and what happened in iran. >> we have to take a break, stay there. >> not only that, we're talking about -- >> when we come back, will obama ultimately, if he strikes be helping al qaeda come into power in syria. what is the impact and what is the impact on israel as it relates to the threats by syria and by iran, we'll have more with ann coulter coming up next. >>> also, secretary of state john kerry's remarks yesterday on the crisis in de mass cass, sounded eerily similar to the testimony he gave to congress back in 1971. we're going to play a
same thing in libya, thank you george bush, he had just turned the loan -- what's his name, libyan -- gadhafi, he just turned gadhafi into america's best friend by invading iraq. gadhafi goes running to england and says, is he going to invade me next, he opens up, says i'm giving up my nukes, my weapons of mass destruction, and that's when obama wants to take him out? democrats do not care about american national security. they're always making this country more dangerous. we are still living...
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. >> reporter: a third former president-- george w. bush-- was unable to attend today, as he recovers from a recent heart procedure. instead, he issued a statement saying: the moment that dr. king delivered his famous address-- with the appeal to "let freedom ring"-- was marked by a bell- ringing ceremony. that set the stage for the first african american president, who said the struggle for economic opportunity remains the nation's great unfinished business, but he voiced hope. there's a reason why so many who marched that day, and in the days to come, were young-- for the young are unconstrained by habits of fear, by the conventions of what is. they dared to dream differently, to imagine something better. and i am convinced that same imagination, the same hunger of purpose, stirs in this generation. we may not face the same dangers of 1963, but the fierce urgency of now remains. we may never duplicate the swelling crowds and dazzling procession of that day so long ago-- no one can match king's brilliance but the same flame can light
. >> reporter: a third former president-- george w. bush-- was unable to attend today, as he recovers from a recent heart procedure. instead, he issued a statement saying: the moment that dr. king delivered his famous address-- with the appeal to "let freedom ring"-- was marked by a bell- ringing ceremony. that set the stage for the first african american president, who said the struggle for economic opportunity remains the nation's great unfinished business, but he voiced hope....
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george bush and dick cheney must hear loud and clear from the american people and the congress, you do not have our support and you do not have our authorization to launch another war. martha: that was back in 2011. -- that was back in 2007 and now we are on the cusp of other action going into syria. a younger looking barack obama then senator now president. he always had at the core of everything he talked about, getting out of the wars in iraq and afghanistan. in the state of the union he talked about putting the decade of wars behind us. so what's your reaction to where we are today with syria? >> great disappointment. i supported him as an anti-war candidate. we had a surge in afghanistan. we went into libya. against the very thing he talked about in 2007. he has to inform congress within 48 hours of any kind of military action then he has 60 days after which he would need congressional authorization to continue a war. that started in 1973 and that was violated by bill clinton and ronald reagan. presidents don't seem to wants to pay attention -- even the war powers resolution is co
george bush and dick cheney must hear loud and clear from the american people and the congress, you do not have our support and you do not have our authorization to launch another war. martha: that was back in 2011. -- that was back in 2007 and now we are on the cusp of other action going into syria. a younger looking barack obama then senator now president. he always had at the core of everything he talked about, getting out of the wars in iraq and afghanistan. in the state of the union he...
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the same thing happened with george bush, of course. didn't call it recess. he called it looking to putin's eye and seeing his soul thinking he could understand the guy and do business. it didn't take him long to find out he didn't really have it right. there was no fallback, after that, i think it was the same situation. of just, you know, floundering about not knowing exactly how to deal with the russians. so yes, it really comes down to the person of valid my putin. it was always a sense of vladmir putin. things have definitely shifted since he announced he would come back and all of, by the way, the processes set in motion inside of russia. i'll thought about later. i think it's shaping very much how putin deals not only in domestic -- politics but foreign politicses. it's the lack of a notion how to deal with putin is kind of in the heart of a lot of these problem. >> that could be hard. he's a unique -- personality. i guess maybe we can sort of follow on that by pivoting off of cliff's point it's a little bit difficult to discern what the american strat
the same thing happened with george bush, of course. didn't call it recess. he called it looking to putin's eye and seeing his soul thinking he could understand the guy and do business. it didn't take him long to find out he didn't really have it right. there was no fallback, after that, i think it was the same situation. of just, you know, floundering about not knowing exactly how to deal with the russians. so yes, it really comes down to the person of valid my putin. it was always a sense of...
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bush, who did go to the u.n. and did go to congress before going to war in iraq. >> gretchen: so congress is on recess until september 9. is that any excuse to not inform them about doing an act of war? if you look at sort of the definition of what the president needs to do, there is some wiggle room in that. but none the less, the president told the "boston globe" in 2007 this quote: the president does not have power under the constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation. the american people sitting around their coffee tables this morning and going to work, they're probably wondering, is syria an imminent threat to the united states of america? you can argue that both ways. you can argue it both ways with regard to america's position as a military force in the world, and for standing up for human rights. when people are killed by their own leader with sarin gas and other chemical weapons. >> steve: where do you d
bush, who did go to the u.n. and did go to congress before going to war in iraq. >> gretchen: so congress is on recess until september 9. is that any excuse to not inform them about doing an act of war? if you look at sort of the definition of what the president needs to do, there is some wiggle room in that. but none the less, the president told the "boston globe" in 2007 this quote: the president does not have power under the constitution to unilaterally authorize a military...